Kenneth Dryland was the director of the inaugural Festival of Mosman in 1981 and continued to direct this major event until 1997.
Diane Wachman was also an active and integral member of the Festival of Mosman committee during this period.
Together they relive the early years of the Festival, festivals that brought the Mosman community together and put Mosman on the map for arts, entertainment and shopping!
Diane Wachman: I’m Diane Wachman. I have lived in Mosman – I was born in Mosman, actually, in Cross Street in Mosman, and I have lived up to when I married in ’56 and went to live in London for 20 years, came back, and of course came back to Mosman.
Kenneth Dryland: My name is Kenneth Dryland. I did live in Mosman for many years, 40-odd years, and took on the job of Festival Director, then I moved away to the country where I now live in Orange, but Mosman is a unique place, being a municipality in a peninsula in the Harbour, and surrounded by water, which is very beautiful and it has such a history.
The idea of the Festival was, it was mooted in 1980 by Doug Millar, who was Chairman, and he was a local shop owner and he was a baker and had a wonderful bakery shop, the first one, I think, in Mosman at that time. The inaugural festival came into fruition in 1981 under my direction. I was asked to do it, and then subsequent festivals followed. We suggested doing it like an arts festival, and I had just come back from Adelaide, I’d been to the arts festival in Adelaide, which was very exciting, and I met a lot of people in Adelaide who were connected with their festival, so we did a lot of talking and probing and found out a lot about it. So I came back with all those ideas and I said to Doug at that stage, and the committee, this is what we should do, and they said, ‘Fantastic, OK, we’ll do it next month.’ I said, no way, one year, because if you want me to do it I’m not going to do it in that time space.
Diane Wachman: The same time that Kenneth was on the Chamber of Commerce I had a business in Mosman with two partners and I was asked to go on the Chamber of Commerce. I had no idea what I was in for, but anyway it was a wonderful experience. So I did join the Chamber of Commerce. I remember that meeting very well, that first one, with Doug Millar.
Then Kenneth was taken aside, I think by Doug Millar, at the end of the meeting and that was when he was asked to take over for the Festival. So that was fine and then Kenneth mentioned to me, would I – I think you asked me if I’d go on to the Committee – and so I said yes. And that’s when it all started.
Kenneth Dryland: Accoutrement, when it had just started, which has been going for a long time. It was David Prentice, I’m sure it was David, and he had been in advertising and they had had a small promotion, something like ‘Come to Mosman’ or ‘Shop in Mosman’ or something like that. He was on the Chamber at that stage and this is how it sort of became bigger, exploded. I set about doing it as a festival as such rather than just a weekend promotion. So that’s how that got under way.
Diane Wachman: It wasn’t only really business houses – it was also people that Kenneth knew that would enjoy to be a part of it, because we probably realised even at that time, or Kenneth would have, that this was going to be a big thing and that we were going to have to have people. As far as it went, as committees went, there were a lot of sub-committees, and maybe one of the representatives of the sub-committee would come to the main meeting to say what had happened with them, to report back to them, because there were so many – when we looked at it, Kenneth and I really looked yesterday, had a good look, it was amazing how many things were done over those festivals. To get that all under one umbrella was really probably the biggest thing to do, and to make sure also that people did what they said they would do.
Kenneth Dryland: When it was first mooted, probably going back a fraction, about doing a festival, and we had no money, nothing, so I went to Barry O’Keefe who was Mayor, and I sat in his office and said what had happened, and he looked at me – and I said, this is going to be bigger than Ben Hur once we get it up and going. He said, ‘How can I help?’ I said we have no money, so he pulled out his cheque book and wrote out a cheque for $500. And there you are.
That gave us stationery, to start with, and then we were able to write letters and send out. Commodore Merson – Jo Spencer – they were at the head of organising fund raising. That was their role at that stage, and ‘Red’ Laurence Merson went out. A lot of the people that he knew, because they were well known in Mosman, he went round all those people and his Navy connections: ‘Come on, boys, put your money in, get your money out’ and did all that.
Admiral Losley, they lived down in Clifton Gardens, they were very supportive, too, he and his wife. So people like that, contacts, it all started to come [together] and we got some money to start doing things. Then we sent out invitations and lots of letters, approached business houses, and one of the things that I always said, and still say, if you’re doing something, you go and see the person; you don’t ring up – or you ring and make an appointment but you don’t just ring up and say, ‘Hey, we’re doing this, how about -?’ and so a lot of shoe leather, I wore out several shoes, and going to all these business houses, banks and shops and real estates and all those people, and on the whole everyone was very supportive. Some would say, ‘What’s it going to do for me?’ and I said, well, you just wait and see. You get on the coat tails and come along; you’ll see what’s happening.
Diane Wachman: Then of course Kenneth decided that we’d have the social committee, we can move on to that, probably, because that was for fund raising. Kenneth knows more about that than I do, but I know he got together a good working social committee who would take on functions, fashion parades, functions, that sort of thing.
Kenneth Dryland: They organised that – card parties and fashion parades and wine tastings and things like that.
Diane Wachman: The first opening, the 1981 opening that was the Town Hall. I get a bit muddled up when the Town Hall actually closed for refurbishing. I remember that very well. Just getting it off the ground – it was very exciting, really, at that time.
Kenneth Dryland: Yes, it was all something very new, although a lot of people said, ‘Oh there used to be something like this in Mosman a long time ago.’ I said, well, this is something very different. Come on board, be part of it.
Kenneth Dryland: The lady in question was Dame Joan Sutherland. She was back here in Australia and she was still performing. They were down at Whale Beach, their beach house, and she rang me and said, could I go down and do her hair for something they’d be doing on whatever night it was, and I said, yes, of course, come down for lunch. So I went down and did all that, and was doing the hair, and she said, ‘Now what’s happening, what are you doing?’ and I said about this Mosman Festival. She again said, ‘Do you know what you’re doing, dear boy?’ So I said, well, this is what we’ve set out, and I said; now I’ve got a very special favour to ask you. She said, oh yes, and I said, I want you to be patron. She laughed, a great belly laugh, and she said, ‘Well, I won’t be here, when you’re doing it’ – whatever the month was at that stage. I said, that doesn’t matter, when you are here, if we can have you at functions and things like that, and she thought about it, and said, ‘Get somebody else.’ Then I said, no, no, you have to do it for me, and she said, ‘Well, I suppose I’m patron of the Vancouver festival and I’ve never been to one of theirs’ so I said, right, there you are.
Kenneth Dryland: When she opened Sutherland Walk and we came up from there, we came to the police station and we changed into an open Rolls Royce, which I’d requested, and she had all these flowers, all the children had brought all these wonderful flowers, so we put them on the back, on the hood that went down, and Joan got in the back and she said, ‘It’s always so difficult getting into these cars.’ I’d requested a police escort so we had two motor cycle cops there and we got started off. The next thing they went voom, they’d gone, and they were way up the end of Military Road, and I said, a lot of use they are! I’d told lots of the shop owners that we were doing this drive through Mosman; they all came out and waved.
Kenneth Dryland: Each time, as I said, you’ve got to reinvent things because if you do the same thing it all becomes very ho-hum and to reinvent something different each festival, different ideas.
Kenneth Dryland: Everyone said, what’s the aim, what are you going to do, and I said, we’re going to launch a scholarship in the performing arts for somebody who is an opera singer or a violin player or a piano player, something like that, somebody from the area if we could possibly do that, or close proximity. So that’s how it started. Then we got that up and going, and again Dame Joan was here and I said to her that we were doing this thing, and she said, ‘What a great thing to do’. Then it was Fiona Janes who was an opera singer, or is an opera singer, and now is one of the principals of Opera Australia, so she was the one who won it. We didn’t have a Town Hall and we didn’t have the cinema at that stage, where we had had a concert before and so I approached the Navy – or it might have been Red who approached the Navy – and we had it down at Platypus
Kenneth Dryland: … Penguin and did all that. Joan came over and I did her hair and I think she came to my house, from memory. We drove down in this enormous Daimler, which was one of the Queen’s Daimlers. It was owned by a wonderful man here in Mosman, he had two of the Queen’s Daimlers, and we used them in the parade and some photographs somewhere. Lovely limousines. So Joan was picked up in the Queen’s Daimler.
Diane Wachman: Ken was a natural, we thought, as far as the festival was concerned, because he uses bright colours, I love his stuff, it’s fun, and after all the festival has to be fun, otherwise it doesn’t work. So Kenneth approached him and we got the first poster, and of course ever since then, for that ‘81, ‘83, ‘85, ‘87, ’90 and ’93, see Ken was wonderful because he did that every year, and then we had the sweatshirts and the t-shirts, and then at one stage there, when Bridgepoint was built, which was 1990, we had up at the top of the escalators there, there were a few empty shops and we put a shop in there to sell the things we had for that year, for 1990, so Ken was very obliging, it was great.
Diane Wachman: It was all his art work. It was all the art work that went into it. Scarves, as you saw, and there were all sorts of things. The big thing was, really, the t-shirts, there’s a blue badge, there’s a magnet, and it’s the same logo, and the key ring. Now that wouldn’t have been anything to do with Ken; that would have been a separate thing. Ken really was doing art work, on clothing, because that was his big thing at that time. Because that last festival was 1996 that Erin Hill did and then, of course, as we know from the history of it, 1997 was when Kenneth moved, was moving, and we decided that you can’t really continue something like that when the principal people are not really doing it any more. It was better to finish it on a high, I think, which I thought we did.
Diane Wachman: We had various caravans. As we look at the pictures, we seem to find more and more caravans.
Kenneth Dryland: Mosman Daily had a caravan. They gave us that.
Diane Wachman: There was one, that there’s pictures of, in the school grounds, which I think must have been something to do with the Council, because I don’t imagine it would particularly be in school grounds if it wasn’t something to do with Council. I can’t remember that.
One of our people who worked very hard on the Committee, Robyn, in her company they had a caravan and that was the one that was up at Myahgah Mews, Myahgah Road. I’m pretty sure that the Square wasn’t in existence then, so we would have had it on the footpath up there, where the road is. And then we can see them all over the place. There was one at Balmoral, there was one at the oval, and I notice that had a lot of the t-shirts and everything in it.
Diane Wachman: Also Miles Felstead, of course, was very interested in vintage cars, and he was also to do with one of the bands, the Scots bands, he was also involved in, and it started down at Rawson Park and in those days my parents were still in the house in Cross Street there and we used the house there and I can see my mother sitting on the swing, the swing seat on the house, watching everything happening.
It started there, he assembled it all there, and my sister Jo Spencer was very involved. Then they slowly wended their way into Military Road and down. In those days it would have been into Myahgah Road, it must have been. It was good.
Kenneth Dryland: We were laughing yesterday, talking about Myahgah Road. It must have been the second or third grand parade. Miles was good doing that, it was his baby to do that, and so many people came on board: the Navy band, we had the Army band, a pipe band, and we had the City of Sydney band at one stage, and the City of Sydney town cryer. He preceded the thing in all his gear. They were big things, you know. The Army duck, they had soldiers in it, and the schools.
I thought, this would be a great idea to have something a bit different so I rang RAAF base at Richmond and I said, ‘We want a fly past, we’re doing this festival in Mosman and we are the first municipality within the City of Sydney to hold a festival.’ And we were. He said, ‘Leave it with me, mate and I’ll get back to you. Days later, the phone, it was flight sergeant whoever he was, and yes, we’re taking this on board, we’ve got four F111s here, what day is it?’ – I said to him, Saturday, it starts at 11 o’clock or whatever time, started the parade. He said, ‘We’ll muster over Sydney’ and right on cue, the parade was coming up Military Road, these four F111s screamed up Military Road, very low and they were gone like that. He said, ‘Where does it terminate?’ and we said, Myahgah, and he said, ‘Right, got it on the map, we turn left at Myahgah Road.’ He had the road map out. That was rather fun, it was great. Everyone was craning their necks at these things and then the parade went on.
The parades were great. They were good. They then got a lot of people on board, a lot of people who had floats and things like that. The Zoo came on board with some ideas. At one stage I spoke to someone at Taronga – Dale – she was public relations there, I spoke to her, she was a great buddy, and I went to her and told her about this, that I’d spoken to somebody else who said, ‘That would be fantastic, we’ll get the elephant out on the float and we’ll get the giraffes’ and she said, ‘What!’ I said, one of your buddies had suggested this, to have the elephant on a float coming up Military Road, spraying water everywhere. That didn’t happen, of course.
We did have an open day at the Zoo. We had bands down there on their stage. They got involved, which was good, very supportive.
Diane Wachman: We had the ‘Freedom of Mosman’ as well.
Kenneth Dryland: We had several of those. We had the Army and the Navy.
Diane Wachman: We had the Navy, yes, I remember the Navy particularly.
Kenneth Dryland: It was from Middle Harbour Yacht Club, it took a bit of grinding into the water to get them to do it, but eventually we got quite a lot of boats together, with flags and banners, decorated, and they came from around there, around to the Island at Balmoral, where we had a band.
Diane Wachman: They looked wonderful, the boats. There weren’t many, because we were sailors, you see, so it was through the cruising division of Middle Harbour Yacht Club. There weren’t many of us. There were probably about 15 boats, maybe, but when they came round that headland it looked so great because they had all the flags out. We did it in daylight so they could be seen, and then all the things started to go on in the Rotunda. This was when my sister was very involved. It was when Jo was doing it and I loved it because she had the music We Are Sailing and really the goosebumps, I can’t tell you, with the boats coming along and the flags and the We Are Sailing – it was so exciting, it really was.
Then they came round past the Island, between the Island and where the baths are, and I don’t think you could do it any more but we had our anchors down there and the whole lot of us were there. Then the fireworks, of course, at that time came from the Island. So we were in amongst all the fireworks, and then we got permission – I don’t know how – to let off our rockets. You know we have distress rockets and so we did get permission to do it, because you do have to get permission. There were these rockets flying all up from all the boats in Balmoral. I don’t think Balmoral has ever seen anything like it.
Diane Wachman: Still talking fireworks, by ’87 we couldn’t get the Town Hall and they had the bright idea, Kenneth and there was another man called Philip, of using the roof of the Balmoral Baths, because that hadn’t been refurbished by then, that hadn’t been done, and so they called it Raffles and it was all very Indian and mysterious and I think there were people with baskets pretending snakes were coming out, all that sort of thing, and the fireworks were very good. They had it on the – when I look back on it, they must have had it on the back of a barge and they had ‘Festival of Mosman’ or ‘Mosman Festival’, and they all came in, and that was a wonderful night. It was supposed to be like the Raj and Singapore.
Kenneth Dryland: Beautiful night and the Navy band were playing and also we had the Navy chaplain there and occasionally they do the ceremony of ‘Blessing the Flag’ and they did this, which was lovely. They had the drums there and the Naval flag over it, and he said a few words and sprinkled water over it and blessed the flag. Which was lovely it was a nice little change you know from everything else and the Navy played on and we partied on.
Kenneth Dryland: Then we had a reception down at Ashton Park in the old hall before it was anything like it is today, and Dame Joan came to that. They had no power or anything like that and it was very rickety and we couldn’t do this and we couldn’t do that. Anyway, we got a generator from somebody and it was planted way down in a tree so it wasn’t causing too much nonsense, and we had lights, because it was late in the afternoon, twilight, and Dame Joan arrived in her limousine, Rolls Royce, and we had flares all the way down the path and we had a piper and she was piped in, which was great, Scottish lady, and she was piped in, which was wonderful.
We had this wonderful reception there and it was beautiful. Looking back to the city, which was a great view from there.
Diane Wachman: We had a funny thing happen with that, because Kenneth and I went down there to speak to the caretaker and we were just saying we wanted to have this, and he turned round and he said, ‘Well, you can’t dance’ and I said, ‘I don’t really think we wanted to dance’ and he said, ‘Oh no, you can’t dance because the floor won’t hold you.’
Kenneth Dryland: ‘How many people are you having?’ Back on those days what we were doing was a bit way out there, I suppose, for a lot of these people. You can’t do this, you can’t do that.
Kenneth Dryland: Talking of venues, Scots Kirk, we used Chalwyn Castle and we had two piano recitals there with John Champ and then I think the year after we had Nigel Nettheim, who was a pianist, and they were very popular, weren’t they. Did we organise a ferry? I think we did organise a ferry to take people around to Chalwyn Castle.
Diane Wachman: It was a terrible place to park.
Kenneth Dryland: That was the thing, parking. A lot of people arrived on the ferry.
Kenneth Dryland: Gone, yes, and we had supper there afterwards out on the terrace, which was very nice. That was great.
Diane Wachman: Yes, down on the tennis court, where the tennis court was, we had supper down there.
Kenneth Dryland: That was a lot of fun.
Kenneth Dryland: Yes, we had a window decorating in the municipality, which was great, and a lot of the shops came on board and did that, with a poster as a stage set, I suppose you’d call it, and then go from there, with everything. ‘What are we going to do?’ – I said, it’s up to you, you’re the shop owner, you’ve got stock, do things with that, and they did, which was great. We had Howard Craven –
Diane Wachman: In those days 2UE, I think – or 2CH.
Kenneth Dryland: He lived in Mosman and he did that. We had great personalities like Bob Rogers, Steve Liebmann, who judged one of the sandcastle competitions, and Bob Rogers did several things, being a local. Talking of him, he came on board literally, we did a ferry trip from here to the Opera House to a cocktail party launch at the Opera House, which Dame Joan came to, and that was – I think some of Ken Done’s work was there, hung there.
Kenneth Dryland: A lady called Sandy de Beyer, is she still in Mosman? She was an artist and she had a furniture shop in Avenue Road, and I think she had one somewhere else, in Cache somewhere, and she did – I asked her, when we were doing one of the big concerts in the Town Hall, if she would do a backdrop for me of Dame Joan and I gave her a photo I have of Joan and she said, oh yes, it’s a mighty thing to ask – it’s got to be a backdrop, and large, to hang down the back of the stage, and she did it on calico, got a great thing of calico, and she did this thing, and the Council have it. It’s done in charcoal and we did this and her shop is quite close to me, a couple of shops away, anyway Dame Joan was coming in to have her hair done in Avenue Road in those days, and I said to her, This has been done of you, would you like to sign it? So we unravelled it! She said, ‘My God, it’s like the red carpet!’ It’s very long, and quite wide, and it is really very, very good.
Kenneth Dryland: Oh yes, that was wonderful. That was so good. That was in the Town Hall and a friend of mine who worked with me knew people in Les Girls and he said, ‘Leave it with me!’ I said, OK, that sounds fun but we’ve got to be very careful because you know people can get a little bit – what’s the word I’m looking for? – embarrassed, I suppose, that’s probably the word. They were a fantastic group and a lot of glitter and feathers – I said, so long as they do not bare their chests, with their bosoms! ‘No, no, they won’t do that!’ So what do they do? – came on, all feathers and glitter and high kicks, it was wonderful, it brought the house down, it really did.
Diane Wachman: We were terribly nervous.
Kenneth Dryland: We’d be run out of town! The next thing we’d have the police coming round saying ‘What are you doing?’
Diane Wachman: We had a glitter ball up there with all the lights going on it and they did it so well. I adored the Cage aux Folles musical, so for me it couldn’t be better than that music and they did it so well. Everybody enjoyed it. I’ll never forget Barry – he thought it was absolutely wonderful.
Kenneth Dryland: The cast enjoyed it so much and Barry was cheering, because he had the mayoral chain on and at the end of it all, I can’t think of the name of the lead in Le Cage at this stage, anyway he came down off stage and mixed with everybody, with all the feathers, and he said to Barry, ‘I love your chain, it’s fantastic.’ He said, ‘I’ve got the earrings but my wife won’t let me wear them!’ It was hysterical!
So then we were all invited up to the mayoral chamber upstairs for drinks, the whole cast. It was a lot of fun.
Kenneth Dryland: It was the kids’ night out, the first one, and Sue Blakeney, who was in charge, she called herself the Fairy Oddmother, and her daughter or somebody else was the Good Fairy. We had all these kids sitting – she was there reading and kids were crying and jumping up and down, the parents were leaving, and then going on to the art show. There will millions of them! Like a horde of ants coming in. Round the hall we had schools and their age groups, so they would assemble at these things – well, that went by the board, and these kids came all in their party dresses and of course it was great for the parents because they were having a night out and we were the babysitters! We had pizzas supplied for the kids to eat and at that stage we had in the Town Hall to decorate and bring it down a bit, we had parachutes, we got these wonderful parachutes from the Air Force and we had them slung up and we had fairy lights inside them so it looked very decorative and wonderful. They covered the entire ceiling, so all this got under way and Diane and I went off to the Killarney art show.
By the time we got back they were disbanding and what had happened, the parents were to come for their children and they were to go out in school lots. It all got a bit out of hand because kids were chumming up with other kids – ‘I want to go with so-and-so’ – ‘No, you can’t!’ The queue was from the old Town Hall right down the street, down here. It was enormous, and parents of these kids, getting rid of them.
Kenneth Dryland: They were in the toilet trying to get out the toilet window. This friend of mine, Duncan Stewart, who was the Master of Ceremonies, was in tails, with all these kids, and he said it was an absolute eye opener, these kids, he said he had no idea they had so much energy and thoughts of escape, trying to get out. We had to lock the doors. We probably wouldn’t be able to do it today because of fire regulations, because they wanted to get out into the street.
So they were all in there, the doors were locked, and then the pizzas came, and I think there were rock cakes. Then they started throwing them. They were like Frisbees, up into the parachutes, on the floor, jumping on them and skating. You can imagine the Town Hall!
Kenneth Dryland: We had buskers. I remember approaching two somewhere in Sydney at something I went to, they were fantastic and I gave them the dates and they came and busked. In the grand parade we had those things on stilts, people walking on stilts, I found them somewhere, they came. It was a lot of fun, and again it presented something different each time.
Kenneth Dryland: Then we introduced later on food and wine down at Balmoral, which was on the off year, again to keep the festival alive and something different. They were very successful, with food stalls all along the Esplanade. It then brought in all the restaurants and food shops and food outlets to give them a go, a promotional thing, and a lot of them came on board with that, which was fantastic. They were very successful, and of course now I think Mudgee does it.
I used to say to them, if you’re going to do something in the festival have a dinner and have a jazz pianist or someone playing a piano or a trumpet, as fun, which happened.
Then going on from that we did the art crawl, rather than a pub crawl – we did this art crawl, which was a great thing. I think we had a Government bus and we had small school buses – pick up at Balmoral, people could park their cars there, and then get on a bus, we did quite a few little art galleries, so they all did things with wine and cheese and biscuits, and people playing on flutes and god knows what. That was a lot of fun, too.
Kenneth Dryland: I’ve written down names here of people, like Deece Giles, who was one of the first instigators and on the festival committee. He was fantastic, again, with his contacts, and another chap called David Robertson who had a coffee shop here. He was great. It was up opposite where Mosmania was, in a little driveway down there in the back. They were good, and he was very supportive and helpful. Then Miles, of course, and another guy called Lindsay Bennett, who was a helper; Louise Cullen who did the sandcastles.
Kenneth Dryland: Suzie Barnes who was – I asked her to be my hostess and there’s a photograph of She and I and the Mersons at one of the openings. She was a very gracious lady and did all that. Sue Blakeney. Robyn Bayliss who was with the first caravan and did the gold whales for us. Then we had the festival social committee, which was headed by Sylvia Merson, who was a great client of mine. They were very supportive and she got together Belinda Mutton, Betty Mayne, and Cath Henderson whose husband was a retired Army colonel. He and Red sort of got together with one of the first parades, about the Army and the Navy, so that was good. A lady called Joy Purcell who had Boutique Elegant up where the cinema is, she was very kind and she gave me a few of her shop mannequins for the first opera costumes.
Kenneth Dryland: Yes, she was in the cinema building. She was there for years. People like that – Decor Glass who gave us the gold whale which we presented to Dame Joan. She gave us that, which was wonderful. Mosman Design Shop: Anna-Marie Williams. It still is on the corner there, opposite what was then the old Mosman Hotel. Lilac Bush, which was very supportive – they gave us lots of things. Geoff Churcher at Beaches Restaurant, Queenwood School – Miss Medway, of course, and Mrs Sands I mentioned about the badges. A man called Oskar Feenstra who helped us tremendously in the beginning.
Diane Wachman: I thought he was something do with the Kitchen Shop.
Kenneth Dryland: He was great. All those people were just fantastic helpers, and they knew other people so other people came on board and did all that. And so it rolled on.
Kenneth Dryland: National Australia Day Committee – Citizen of the Year, 1982, which was a great surprise. I remember Max Park ringing me and saying about this, and it was very hush-hush, don’t tell anybody. It was like getting an order from the Queen. Don’t say anything until it comes out. That was a great honour and I said, I’m very honoured but really it’s the committee that have done all this – and he said, no, without you it wouldn’t have happened. So here it is here with the common seal of the Council of Mosman,23rd day of February 1982
Diane Wachman: The Council were very supportive of us, which was wonderful. You can’t do anything like that without having the Council behind you because it’s so very important that they are, as you would say, on board as well. They were just great, and that made a big difference as far as the festival was concerned because particularly Kenneth could go and speak to them about things and discuss different situations.
Kenneth Dryland: I hope people enjoy it in the future.
Mosman Festival, and may it long survive and carry on in a different form today as to when we did it. Carry on.